Minutes of April 10, 2006
Present were: Donald Anderson,
Chairman; Louis Calabrese, Vice Chairman;
Michael Przybylowicz, Clerk;
Marilyn Richards and Thomas Morrissette.
The meeting was held at the High School auditorium.
ANR -
Mr. Carabetta asked the Board to
reconsider their vote on his ANR for
Mr. Carabetta said that he is
aware that he must reapply for the building permits based on the new lot lines
and that he does need to adhere to all the setbacks. Ms. Richards stated that she wanted the
discussion as part of the record. That
being said, Mr. Anderson recused himself from the first vote as he was not in
attendance at the previous meeting. Upon
motion duly made and seconded, the Board voted (4-0) to rescind their prior
vote. With no further discussion and
upon motion duly made and seconded the Board voted (5-0) to approve the ANR as
presented.
Public Hearing – Amendment to the
Chair, Donald Anderson opened the public
hearing, explained the rules of the public hearing and introduced the Board
members. Clerk, Michael Przybylowicz
read the legal notice into the record.
Marilyn Richards read correspondence into the record by summarizing
postcards received from townspeople who had responded to the legal notice for
the hearing. A copy of the summary
presented together with a list of names of those who sent in postcards is
attached hereto and incorporated herein.
At this time, the Chairman
introduced Petitioner James Driscoll, and asked him to present his
proposal. Mr. Driscoll explained that he,
as a member of the Board of Selectmen, submitted this proposal in an attempt to
place a cap on large retail stores coming into
Mr. Driscoll continued by stating
that, if one looks at the locations for existing big box stores, they are
currently on massive state supported roads, with four lanes for travel. He further stated that the impact on safety
and the quality of life that these types of stores would have at the
Lynn Smith, 18 Lombard Avenue stated that she was the spokesperson for a group of very
concerned citizens called East Longmeadow First. She said that East Longmeadow First strongly
endorses the proposed size cap limit on retail buildings in
Al Norman, Land Use Consultant to Jim Driscoll, said he has recently worked with several
communities in
Mr. Anderson said he had one comment
regarding Attorney Beglane and his comments and that is that Attorney Beglane is
a distinguished member of the East Longmeadow Zoning Board of Appeals and he
did not have the luxury of seeing the new version provided at this hearing and
his well stated comments were based on a previous and only version that was
available.
Mr. Anderson then addressed the
audience for questions.
Russell Sabadosa, 16 Spring Valley Road asked how many parcels this would impact and of those
parcels how many are undeveloped. Mr. Anderson said that it affects all of the businesses
in the entire zone.
Steve Loyack, 60 Smith Avenue asked if the Planning Board had taken into consideration
the guidelines that the Federal Government has in place for wetlands. Mr.
Anderson said that the Planning Board always takes into consideration comments
from our Conservation Commission. However, he added, at this particular point
if any potential retail development is submitted, the comments from the
Conservation Commission would be considered at that time, however at this
hearing, the Board is only dealing with the zone change issue.
Bob Goodrich, 17 Silver Street said he was very pleased with what our East Longmeadow
people have done in bringing this proposal to the public. He asked if we find that the residential
boundaries are growing as quickly and would this by-law include the addition of
a large market for food processing in other areas other than North Main Street? Mr. Driscoll said he thinks by increasing the
cap from 40,000 to 65,000 square feet that is about the foot print of Big Y and
Stop & Shop.
Tim Mahoney, Senior Director of Real Estate for Stop &
Shop said he has some great concerns about
the approach and he thinks it is very dangerous for the Planning Board to take such
an approach as they appear to be taking.
He stated that he believed that the town would be giving away a lot of their
opportunity to apply smart growth and to apply basic fundamental planning
principals in deciding how retail should develop. He also stated that Stop & Shop is
roughly around 55,000 square feet and it is part of a larger building of other
shops so immediately it is above the 65,000 square feet cap they are talking
about; and as a result, the town would be putting Stop & Shop (which is
smaller is than the Big Y) immediately at a competitive disadvantage. Mr. Mahoney said if he wanted to add a single
square foot whether it was for benefits for his employees, improvements for
storage and loading to make those functions quieter, safer, more worker-friendly
he could not do it unless he went to the Zoning Board and asked for a variance.
Mr. Driscoll said he respected Mr.
Mahoney’s perspective and added that it was not something that the Selectmen
threw together, they worked weeks on the project and he said if he was a
supermarket executive he would prefer complete freedom without any restriction
at all. He also stated, however, we live
here and we really want to make sure that our infrastructure can support the type
of retail environment they want to invite.
He said that it does not put anyone at a disadvantage, in fact it evens the playing field, it would be
consistent for every retail store in town.
Roland Bolduc, 110 Smith Avenue said he has been in town for about 18 years and has seen
it grow and really never paid much attention to the traffic until he tried to
pull out of Lombard Avenue onto North Main Street. He said that the traffic is getting pretty
crazy, almost out of hand, and asked if the town wanted to put that big box
there to make it worse. He said he
agrees with keeping retail stores small and medium.
Christine King, Parker Street said she grew up in East Longmeadow and she thinks the
small town charm of East Longmeadow is going fast. She said Bluebird Acres is gone and Kelly
Fradet will be in grave danger. She used
to run in East Longmeadow now she fears for her life because there is so much
traffic and she wrote an editorial to the paper because she nearly got hit by a
car. She added that there is way too
much traffic and it is just going to get worse.
Ron Cutler, 35 Dorset Street said he is directly impacted by traffic on a daily basis
and he finds it almost impossible to get out of Dorset Street around 4:00 -
6:00 p.m. each day. He said he was not
worried about Stop & Shop adding another aisle, he said that it was about
what was best for the citizens of East Longmeadow and that he commends Mr.
Driscoll for a great idea. He said the
best thing for the town would be for Lowe’s never to happen.
Jill _________ (inaudible) from Agawam, current Chair for
Citizens Against Reckless Development,
said they spent a year trying to defeat a developer who wanted to build a
563,000 square feet retail building across the street from the high school in
Agawam. She said they were facing
20,000 vehicle trips per day and they defeated the development at the polls. She added that it was the hardest thing they
ever did in their lives, but they were very pleased it got defeated. She said they had a cap in their town on
square footage. She added that her point
was that it is an excellent idea to plan ahead, rather than to react to someone
who is trying to come in trying change your town in that dramatic way. She said
that she hopes it passes.
Keith Hayes, representative of the landowner for the
proposed Lowe’s development, Edens & Avent. He said that they
are the largest tax payer in the town and it will have some impacts on use not
only on their ability to develop the proposed Lowe’s parcel, but also their
existing center because any change they might want to make would require us to
seek a section 61 finding from the ZBA, that means the slightest change because the existing
center is over the 65,000 square foot cap.
He said he believed it would not only effect them, it maybe geared
towards us or the Lowe’s development but he thinks it does have some pretty
significant impacts on many of the business owners in town. Mr. Hayes said the proposed Lowe’s will be
developed responsibly and the town will have the availability to give their input
and they will work with the town staff and we will strive to construct a
development that everyone will be happy with and we believe that it is a
responsible development and stated that he urges everyone to oppose the
amendment.
Mr. Driscoll said that he
appreciated Mr. Hayes’s comments but as a member of the Board of Selectmen he
has never seen a formal or informal proposal from Lowe’s or any specific retail
store or development at all. He said
this proposal is not in direct response to anything you folks have done and
while we welcome our business partners and we encourage them to develop in this
town - we want to do is work with you on it but we are also concerned for our
town. We are more than willing to
welcome your development - it just has
to fit into to the infrastructure and the quality of life in town.
Don Gamache, 22 Day Avenue said the gentleman that just spoke is from a different
town and does not live here. He said he
is in favor of the cap to keep all of the large stores out because we do not
need the traffic and any others things that were mentioned tonight.
Tom Wheeler owner of AW Brown Pet and Garden Store, 144
Shaker Road. He said he has been doing business in town
for over 20 years and would like to thank Jim Driscoll and the Planning Board
for taking the initiative tonight to discuss our future. He said that he has been working with the
East Longmeadow First Group and other business owners in town close to 6 months
and we have all studied this very carefully.
Mr. Wheeler continued by stating
that his building is only 25,000 square feet and he is certainly concerned
about his future and the future of his company and thinks that it is very
important to keep things into perspective.
He said the size cap is a dramatic step in the right direction for small
business owners in town and part of the quality of life in this community
revolves around what small businesses do and what we give back to the
community. He said as a business owner
himself he feels blessed and fortunate to be able to conduct business in East
Longmeadow because of things they could do in the community that they can give
back and the things the community has done for them that allows them to give
back.
Mr. Wheeler also stated that
business owners in the valley who have had to deal with large retail growth in
their communities did not have a positive experience. Mr. Wheeler said a size cap which has been
proposed in many surrounding communities in New England is a very smart thing
and he encourages the Board to take some serious action to vote in favor of
it. He said the economic impact on small
businesses in the community would be huge and big boxes often do $50,000,000 in
sales each year and 80% of that business will come within 5 miles of the store. He said that means that it comes from the small
business, that means they are generating sales from businesses that are
currently in business and it is a very important economic statement to make
because it is true and it happens all across the country. Mr. Wheeler said that it could certainly
happen here if they were not careful, and on behalf of other businesses in the
community and on behalf of AW Brown he asks the residents and the Board to vote
in favor of the amendment.
Mr. Anderson asked the Board for
any questions or comments. He said out
of fairness we do have a revision of the plan so we need to sift through it as
well. He then thanked everyone for their
comments and assured the audience that their concerns will be addressed and
considered when the Board had its opportunity to discuss this proposal.
Mr. Morrissette asked Mr. Norman to
explain his response to one of Attorney Beglane’s points regarding how the site
could be used if this by-law passed. Mr.
Norman said a cap of 65,000 square feet -
compare it to a football field of 48,000 square feet - any developer who exists
in East Longmeadow or wants to come in would have the ability to build a
facility that is about 1½ times the size
of a football field, that is enormous.
In fact, that land could be used for a variety of purposes, except for
trying to build something larger than 65,000 square feet.
Mr. Norman continued by stating
that if the current owner wants to put up several buildings, they could do that
as long as they don’t exceed in total the size of 1½ times of a football field, which would make it
one of the largest retail complexes in East Longmeadow.
Mr. Morrissette said you already
have the building that they own within 100 feet of that property, Stop &
Shop Plaza is owned by the same owners, so now they have 132,000 square feet of
strip mall and they also own the 30+ acres behind them if they are in common ownership,
in your by-law they cannot use that property at all. Mr. Norman said he did not think that was the
case, it is a separate parcel and they are setting up another corporation. Mr. Morrissette said in essence, it is common
ownership and it is within the 1,500 feet that you have requested. Mr. Norman said he did not think that was
true, he would have to measure it out.
Mr. Driscoll said again he has never
been approached by the owners of the property and again it isn’t about Lowe’s
is it about managing growth so his is not aware of who bought what, they have
never consulted with the Selectmen so he cannot comment to their business plan.
Ms. Richards said that they are
talking about retail so there are other uses that could be applied to the
property. She said that retail is where
the restrictions are being placed – that it was the industrial zone and the
most relaxed zone in the entire town, besides from residential houses you can
do a lot of other creative things in these zones.
Mr. Driscoll said that they were
only talking about retail uses, 65,000 - a football field and a half - he said
that it was not Martha’s Vineyard but it is a huge building and it will equal
and create level playing field for all retail stores in town. He asked if the Board was planning on voting
at a planning Board meeting prior to the Town Meeting.
Mr. Anderson said the Board has to
discuss the proposal, especially due to the fact that the presentation was
different than the proposal submitted, and that it would happen at one of the
Planning Board’s meetings prior to town meeting. Mr. Anderson asked the Board for any other
comments. There being none at this time
and upon motion duly made and seconded, the Board voted unanimously (5-0) to close
the hearing.
There being no further business
and upon motion duly made and seconded, the Board voted unanimously to close
the public meeting at 8:30 p.m.
For
the Board,
Michael
Przybylowicz, Clerk